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Something I found surprising is that GEOS is open source, and the source code is available on github. Even more surprising, 60% of the code is written in Assembly language, these people have built an operating system almost entirely in Assembly.
I loved GEOS, going all the way back to my C64. I bought my copy in 1991, and loved it. So small and with low requirements, it ran on an XT class system as well as Win 3.1 did on an 80386-33.
And GEOS and AOL goes back before it was even AOL. The original C64 GEOS shipped with Quantum Online, the company which would become AOL. And their DOS windowing shell program for AOL was just a stripped down version of GEOS, which fit on a single floppy.
It is a shame it never took off, and I still miss it.
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Great video Michael, Geoworks Ensemble 1.28 was able to run on a XT 8088 up to an AT 486 in those days, no need to upgrade your hardware if you wanted to use it. I still run it occasionally in Virtualbox just for fun. I have three original boxings in my collection: a version 1.2 in German, an USA Geoworks Pro 1.2 (with Quattro Pro 1.0 (which is a dos version actually but running it in combination with Geos is very easy to do )) and a Geoworks 1.28 in Dutch. The future of Home Computing might have looked different indeed if this OS had a larger market penetration in those days.
Ya windows and Microsoft has a choke hold over pc market. The fact they bought Q-Dos out then Re sold as ms dos is part or history ( and would be illegal today if they did that now) and they continued to dictate and Dominate the pc market. Bullying anybody else to their rules/laws or be forced out by ms legal team under lawsuits threats.
I remember Geo works on Costco pc back in 90’s. Hp/Dell and few others. Also remember them using newer OS that was very similar to win 95 that was a lot better win95. Was geoworks that closer be like win95?
Almost bought one but was out my budget back in early 90’s in Canada. As pc were not cheap. Close $1500$2000 back then. Then again I remember our old Tandy 1000 sl2 with deskmate os lol. With intel 8088/86 cpu at 8 MHz I think. 720kb 3.5 diskdrive and no HDD. Also remember ibm os/2 warp. Who also got bullied out market by ms. Also loved old Mac classic/color classic /se 30/Lc. Wanted Mac LC for so long back when was in high school back in 90’s. Couldn’t afford one.
As much I grew up loved win 3.0/3.1 dos/win 95 days. I do miss those days. I hate what ms has become and how continue dictate what pc market is. And hate direction Win10 has on market.
Imo window has been too become too big and powerful. Because lack competition, they basically like intel now. With little innovation because lack of competition from other os system. Mac isn’t a threat to window and Linux while slowly getting better. Isn’t much a threat at the moment. But that is slowly changing. I hope in near future. Will see hardware vendors support Linux more. The fact windows pushing more Linux code to window is proof they know of the threat.
Great video. Hope you look other os from the time. Os warp? How about look some old Mac system 6 or system 7?
(MAC classic / Mac plus/se 30?)
I remember when this came out. I was seriously thinking of buying it. But I was worried if there would be any additional software support…..additional applications from different providers. If I remember…..not a lot of additional software programs from different companies was written to run within the Geoworks environment. It may look dated now but it did look seriously sweet when it came out
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GeoWorks also came on the Brother GeoBook laptop, released in 1998 as a low-cost alternative to Windows laptops of the era. It used an embedded version of the AMD 386SX processor and came with DOS and GeoWorks in ROM. It was also used by various PDAs and palmtop computers in the ’90s.
My wife and I loved Geoworks and tried to push for it in our computer club and newsletter. We also used it for creating a newsletter for our writing group that went all over the US and a couple foreign countries. Sadly, Microsoft won that battle, taking some of the best features of Geoworks and putting them into Windows, eventually.
I loved Geoworks back in the day. Of course, I started out on a C64c with the original GEOS, so when we were given a 386 to replace (sort of) the Commodore, Geoworks was among the first things we sought out. We used that 386 until 1998, when we finally replaced both it and the Commodore with a new Win95 machine… that died a week later. It’s replacement was a Win98 machine, and things went downhill from there.
Microsoft still hasn’t made a desktop OS as stable or fast as Geoworks.
The best reason for running Geos over Windows was the printing! Geos supported many printers from Daisy Wheel to LaserJets with their own drivers. Geos could make the wimpiest 7 wire dot matrix output look like it was from a laser printer (if you didn’t look closely and see the pin strikes). Granted it took many passes and many minutes to render but I used this feature to run Geos printouts through a copier and the recipients were not aware I didn’t have a high-dollar laser printer. [Sad to see you couldn’t show this feature, but USB printing won’t work because of the nature of the low-level the drivers use to control the printers, but Parallel Port printers work fine. BTW if you pick Text Only instead of no printer in setup I believe the setup doesn’t crash.]
Before I used GEOS I danced with Windows 2.0 which I picked up for about $50 then got Windows 3.0 for almost free. My PC at that time ran windows 3 poorly. So a friend of mine offered to sell me GroWorks Ensemble dirt cheap. So I bought it and used it until that PC was on it’s last bits. Geos ran like the champ it was and I could actually print a document while working on a spreadsheet and experience little interruptions. Ran that for almost 4 years! Great product and if it was properly marketed would have been great competition for windows.
GeoWorks had a great chance to become main PC GUI instead of Windows. Unfortunately it didn’t happened. Pity because GeoWorks worked a way faster than Windows so it was able to run smoothly even on PC XT’s. XTs was already a bit outdated at 1990, however we still had plenty of them, especially in ex-Soviet Bloc countries.
Wastebasket aka Trash Bin was not much often used feature at those days though. We deleted files because badly wanted to have any possible free disk space on those tiny and expensive HDDs at that era.
Wow, that takes me back! In the late 80’s I was studying to become a phototypesetter and layout/paste-up artist. Used my C64 with EasyScript to type it all up and GeoPublish (limited as it was) to format it, as much as I could for my dissertations. Fun times! Thanks for posting. Very cool!
Even though I have enough antique computers to run various operating systems and interfaces, I prefer to run them in D-Fend Reloaded or virtual machines. GeoWorks, Gem, and even Windows 3.1 all run in D-Fend Reloaded. Most DOS programs, including Ventura Publisher, Dbase2, Aldus Page Maker, Lotus 123, WordStar, and Word Perfect, all loaded on this computer, run under D-Fend. I have not had any luck trying to run AutoCAD 1.0.
Thanks for the video. I have a vague memory of the OS but never saw it in use. This seems so much better than Windows 3.0. I suppose we have to blame IBM for doing the deal with Microsoft. Did Win 3.11 for workgroups kill it because business wanted networking?
I remember this one, and back in the day it was prettier than Windows and I’m not surprised that Microsoft did their ‘thing’ (but I guess no one is surprised who knows a bit of the history of Microsoft).
And the funniest thing is that this office package/wannabe mac (they even copied the character set and the keyboard layout) came in 1993, when you could run Microsoft Office, CorelDraw, AutoCAD, Visio, PageMaker, FreeHand, Illustrator, Visual C++ and other software for free in Windows; that was TOO late for it.
Ha, I used to use GEOS on the C64 mostly for going above gaming and using it for homework. But geoPaint was nice to play with for 8 bit systems. I went straight on to windows 3.1 from Geos, having no idea GeoWorks was a thing.
This video doesn’t work for my messenger. I like messenger, but now it is changing the texts I send and receive. It changes words, it removes words and sentences and replaces them with others, and it even translated my English text into French! How do I report this?
I remember buying an 80286 computer in 1992 with GeoWorks Ensemble on it. It worked quite well even on a slower computer. I also remember signing up for America Online which at that time was a glorified bulletin board. I got so addicted to going online that I was running up online time charges of $100 a month. You were charged for connection time to AOL at that time.
I miss the simplicity and responsivity of older (well designed) software. Like who really needs all that extra that you get with modern office apps? And I hate that many modern apps have a lag when opening / closing them or simply using them.
I wish you would have explored that complexity level thing that was on the start screen of GeoWrite. I always wondered why MS Word doesn’t have something like that. Like different interfaces for different kind of users.
Enjoyed the video!
Oh my I was not aware this was so popular. My best friend’s parents bought a PC from Fingerhut of all places that had this installed. This was the only persons I personally knew that had it. I was more into DOS, Windows 1.0 3.0 and a few years later OS/2 Warp on my PC’s. I knew other people that had their Tandy’s and Deskmate. What fun memories from 80’s 90’s. While there is nothing fun about Windows 10 in present day depending on what day of the week it can run sorrier than some of these oldies… lol I had a hand-me-down C64 a hand-me-down Apple iic before getting in PC’s.
My first PC was actually an IBM 386sx laptop. It actually had a color screen. Had to send it back to IBM poor design (wasn’t portable). They actually «bought» it back from me. You will never hear of this in 2020. Miss the customer services that come with these earlier PC’s. I then bought a desktop CYRIX 486 DLC.
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20:10 Remember, Microsoft was charging OEMs fees based on the total number of PCs shipped, not on actual copies of Windows included with them. So there was definite discouragement against bundling other OSes.